| Tue, Feb 9 2010 11:39am EST 1 |

Paul
126 Posts
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I was just wondering if it was appropriate for us to express our
political views here?
Will people get offended and not want to be part of this
site?
Etc....
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 11:46am EST 2 |

Rich
123 Posts
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I would say lets keep it politics free. there are plenty of other
places to get your fill and post away. This is about growing our
individual business'. Lets keep it to that. I know we have some
miscellaneous thread topics but sports and pets are fun. Politics
tend to divide and isolate and I would think we want to be inviting
to all.
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 11:57am EST 3 |

Sherri Sherpy, The MN Mortgage Mom
16 Posts
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I couldn't agree more. Politics lead to bashing, nasty criticism
and the like. Politics is too highly "charged". In an effort to try
to gain "membership", a person should not come on this site and
potentially be offended...regardless of what side of the aisle that
person is on. We all want this site to help grow business (as Rich
stated). Politics, abortion, religion, ethnicity, sexual
orientation are all topics that could potentially ruin this site.
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 01:50pm EST 4 |

Paul
126 Posts
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To me when people get all worked up about politics it stems
directly from the Caveman times.
Back then there were groups of people and they tried to function
together. There were probably policies evolving every day such as
"Do we leave the fire burning at night or do we put it out? If we
put it out we won't have fire tomorrow...if we leave it burning
our enemies and animals that might eat us will see the flames and
be able to find us.." .
The cavemen all stood in a circle and when all were not in
agreement there were usually skulls crushed and the result was
the crusher got their way... there is something to be said for
this efficient solution...
but...
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 02:03pm EST 5 |

Martin Wareing
2 Posts
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Politics can lead to higher
emotions that spill out to other issues and jade our thinking of
other’s opinion and intelligence. Blaming 1 party for national
problems of many years of prior administrations seems to be a hot
potato time-bomb. To each his own, but if we want a place with
minimal controversy, the n leave it at the door. If higher page
views and potential verbal shootouts are the desire, bring it on.
We all listen from time to time to controversial Radio Shock
Jocks. It’s about ratings. Keep rockin’.
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 02:04pm EST 6 |

Queen City Funding
17 Posts
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There are only a few topics as polarizing as politics. I don't
feel anything good can come from discussing them in a
professional setting. Chances are you will have a different view
then 50% of your clients and hard feelings can arise. There is a
time and place for everything and I would steer clear on those
type of discussion. I will say I would peak in and read as it can
be pretty entertaining as well.
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 02:05pm EST 7 |

Jason Hall
14 Posts
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I am in agreement with the "no politics" policy. Everyone has a
right to his/her view, but some can be overbearing and it could
alienate people. If the idea is to grow the site, increase the
traffic and share constructive information, I don't see how
political banter helps any of that in any way. That is just my
personal opinion, but politics just seems to be so divisive which
is usually counterproductive.
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 03:51pm EST 8 |

Master of Her Domain
136 Posts
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While I agree with a few of the sentiments expressed, I have to be
as clear as possible on this- Politics, and every other 'hot
button' issue is absolutely welcome on the site, and will remain
here.
My tongue-in-cheek blog was not well-received by some more
sensitive members of our community, and I really can't understand
why. If you actually read it, you would know that is what over
the top SATIRE. Am I anything like the conservative hosts I was
pretending to be? No. But it was amusing to pretend.
I think spirited debates and discussions are welcome and are
going to be a big part of this site's character. The point of the
site is to KNOW your pro. Not just get bits and pieces. If
someone doesn't care about your politics, or religion, or
whatever- they can look
you up in the Yellow Pages. We aim to do something different
here- be bigger and better than that. If you cannot understand
why, I don't know what to tell you.
In regards to Sherri's comments specifically- eventually, we will
have a 'Dealbreaker' question which will enable a potential
client to email a professional an anonymous question. It very
well could be 'Are you against abortion?'- what will you do then?
Not answer it? Lie? What if it is THAT important to someone where
they want to know the values of the person they could potentially
work with? Being open, and honest is important.
That's the key with me guys- I am open, and always honest. I wish
I could say the same for everyone else.
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 04:09pm EST 9 |

Martin Wareing
2 Posts
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No worries Jenn. Taking a stand on your convictions is American. Do
not lose that regardless of sentiments felt by a reader or
listener. Remain true and all is good.
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 04:11pm EST 10 |

Master of Her Domain
136 Posts
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Thanks Martin, it's great to see you here :)
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 04:32pm EST 11 |

Jason Hall
14 Posts
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Just wondering what is up with the time on here. Where is it 9:11
pm? Because on my watch it's like 2:30 so what is 7 hrs ahead of
mtn time?
I can appreciate your passion and thoughts Jenn. But I think
being polar to any idea/agenda will only exclude people and
ultimately drive away participants. That is the whole problem
with our current political landscape - everyone in their own
corner with their ears plugged and eyes covered - does nobody any
good.
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 04:35pm EST 12 |

Santa Claus
4 Posts
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To quote my favorite Ogre, "Ogre's are like Onions, they have
layers." The same is true of political parties, a persons political
affiliation does not make them the party, their beliefs and
opinions may help mold the parties policies and priorities but by
no means does every member agree or support everything a party
does. Their just one part, a layer if you will of the political
party. So attacking the party amounts to name calling on a school
yard, if you want to attack something attack a political view,
program, or agenda. This creates a dialogue a chance to debate and
come to a better understanding than originally proposed. This is
how our govenment was formed, this is where true freedom comes
from, the right to be heard is the ultimate freedom.
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 04:37pm EST 13 |

Master of Her Domain
136 Posts
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The site has everything- it's not like there is an emphasis on one
thing or another.
I like the idea of being that open and transparent- others may
not- which is fine. I have some people join and not even bother
to be thorough in their profiles. Their choice. But what I
envision for the site is something where a consumer is looking
for someone, and wants all the information they can get to make
their choice.
Those that choose to leave the site, or not get involved, are
just not comfortable with being THAT open. I suppose it's easier
for me since I left the business, but I happen to think this
concept is one that will grow and be successful- I wish the rest
of the community felt the same way instead of having these
misgivings. Only time will tell., but thanks for your comments
Jason.
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 04:40pm EST 14 |

Master of Her Domain
136 Posts
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Hi Santa- I hope you read my blog, as that is kinda what I was
saying ;) I think the unfortunate truth is that some people are so
angry about politics, they cannot have a discussion with losing
their mind. I see it with my mom- huge talk radio fan, hence my
6000 hours of experience with it! When you see things as 'party
based' or so black and white, it hurts our country by dividing us
into this group or that. And again, I'm not sure how satire can be
taken so seriously.
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 05:28pm EST 15 |

Jason Hall
14 Posts
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I am still wondering where it's 9:40 pm . . . . . . . .?
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 05:40pm EST 16 |

Master of Her Domain
136 Posts
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Jason- I have tried to fix it, and have been unable to. Perhaps
it's time to call in the big boys to help.
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 09:55pm EST 17 |

NJShoreMortgage
9 Posts
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Years ago I had the pleasure of working as a bartender. There were
two things that were always better left out of the conversation
when drinks were flowing: politics and religion. Alcohol just
doesn't mix with certain things. You can think the world of
somebody, really think that person is great...then you find out the
guy's a "__________".
All of a sudden your view of this person has turned 180 degrees
because you don't agree with his religion or sexual orientation or
whatever. What could have been a lifelong business or personal
relationship ended.
I think a lot of people are MOR...not too far right or left...not
too religious but not atheists. Sometimes those people get pushed
away from things that are just too hot to handle, and let's face
it: There are millions of places to go on the web where you can go
on about how much you love this or hate that. Nothing wrong with
being passionate, but if we're looking to build the
community we need to be open to the general public, and not sound
devisive.
What's more important: talking about business? Looking for advice
on how to get something done? who to contact for a particular
service?
Or finding out if your plumber is an Athiest? After all...I'm not
calling the guy because I want his views on religion. I'm calling
him becasue he knows how to fix a leaky faucet. (Do you go to a
Springsteen concert for his music, or his political
commentary?)
I understand that KYP was built knowing more about your pro than
just a name and phone number...but maybe learning more about his
civic contributions, professional awards and testimonials from his
previous customers would make me better informed.
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| Fri, Feb 12 2010 02:15pm EST 18 |

Paul
126 Posts
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Jason - the post times are now set to Eastern Standard Time.
hopfully we can implement a system soon that tells how long ago the
post was instead.
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