MBS purchases

Wed, Jan 6 2010 06:39pm EST 1
Master of Her Domain
Master of Her Domain
136 Posts
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/01062010_mbs_purchase_program.asp

In my opinion, the MBS purchase program has been a colossal waste of money, and borderline ineffective. It was meant to stabilize the mortgage rates, did it? HELL NO!

I don't know, add this to naming Bernanke the 'Time Magazine Person of the Year' and you have a crap sandwich.
Wed, Jan 6 2010 08:08pm EST 2
Rich
Rich
123 Posts
Mixed emotions on this. Rates have been stablizied. they have been around 5% for over a year now. Great for home buyers and those that can refinance. Every dollar saved in someone's mortgage payment is a dollar that could be spent, saved, or used to pay down other debt. That is a good thing. Of course this is all theory.

Wed, Jan 6 2010 09:30pm EST 3
Master of Her Domain
Master of Her Domain
136 Posts
Rich- do you think we have had stability? You know you spend WAY too much time focusing on what the MBS market is doing, and why? So that some jerky can make some money on speculating on speculation? ;)

I don't know... I just don't like this. Kids go hungry in this country, yet the damn Fed can print fake money to buy pieces of paper????

And you know, you do bring up a good point- we don't save in this country any more, so most likely the savings someone got out of refinancing was used to buy more stuff. Would it be a BAD thing if we stopped consuming so much? I don't think so.
Thu, Jan 7 2010 10:50am EST 4
Joe Cafiero
Joe Cafiero
19 Posts
Being an ex bartender, I am pretty good at riding the fence so here is my "non-take" of the situation.

On one hand, I would be lying if I did not say this whole MBS purchase was not good. It kept rates down and put some nice coin in my pocket enabling me to take care of my family. If pushed to make a stand, all I care about is taking care of my family.

On the other hand, it really ticks me off when I hear about the alarming percentage of people who have been bailed out of their higher rate mortgage that they were struggling with and are still late with their mortgages. To that I would say screw it, lets rates go where they may and use the billions to stimulate the economy/help the country in other ways.
Fri, Jan 8 2010 10:37am EST 5
Master of Her Domain
Master of Her Domain
136 Posts
Joe- what if this money and energy was spent on creating sustainable jobs? Energy, security, education, manufacturing, you name it... I think that we can all agree that when the shit hits the fan, the mortgage industry as we know it will not exist. So what then? Everyone that is employed in this industry goes where? It is a worry of mine, and one of the reasons I am no longer counting on mortgages as any sort of income provider. Times may ok now, but in a year? Two? While I agree with your sentiment that you will do what you can to support your family, at some point in the not too distant future, you may just have to find another way. And instead of being able to get employed by a great energy company, or a school system, or even a factory, who knows. All I know is throwing trillions of dollars down the tube only delays the inevitable and adds NOTHING to our sputtering economy for the long term.

PS- why doesn't the Fed just forgive the trillions of dollars our government owes them? That would be hot.
Fri, Jan 8 2010 12:51pm EST 6
Paul
Paul
126 Posts

mbs has been artificially pumped up by the fed, indeed... will the mortgage market stink after this fed fish fry is over? Only time will tell... as is, the vibe is for rates near 6% for a 30 yr by summer, that sounds about right.
Fri, Jan 8 2010 01:35pm EST 7
Master of Her Domain
Master of Her Domain
136 Posts
And if housing prices correct even more, people will still be buying houses- Rate should not matter, PRICE should. Not only is the Fed action spurring even more inflationary bullcrap, but it's also propping up housing prices- NOT GOOD. It is delaying the inevitable.

It amazes me that people are happy about this. 500 billion was bad enough. 1.25 trillion was nauseating. And now they are considering MORE? Excuse me while I pop a pill to keep my head from spinning off my neck.
Tue, Jan 12 2010 10:03am EST 8
Paul
Paul
126 Posts
Almost Done, and it is not even the 2nd week of Jan yet.

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Thu, Apr 1 2010 11:06am EDT 9
Paul
Paul
126 Posts
First day of no more Fed MBS Purchases...so far "SLIGHT PAIN"
Thu, Apr 1 2010 08:04pm EDT 10
Master of Her Domain
Master of Her Domain
136 Posts
I wonder what will happen now. I heard rates worsened about .75% over the last week or two... This has happened before too- during the Fed's buying binge. So, I wonder how much it is all related. Bottom line is, if banks still see mortgages as a profitable business, they will keep rates low. OR, we see a proper price correction and 'rate' will matter less and less.
Sat, May 1 2010 04:43pm EDT 11
Oak
Oak
36 Posts
I heard rates were low as a snake's belly
Thu, May 6 2010 06:39pm EDT 12
Paul
Paul
126 Posts
Rates are pretty low that is for sure, and looking ot keep going lower...
Sun, May 9 2010 07:13pm EDT 13
Master of Her Domain
Master of Her Domain
136 Posts
Paul- they dipped last week, right? Still seems to be very roller-coaster like, and that can't be fun to watch.

I'm sticking to my guns though- the Fed MBS purchase program WAS a waste of money. So much for a free-market system.
Fri, May 14 2010 11:40pm EDT 14
Paul
Paul
126 Posts
Just maybe, just maybe, here comes a refi boom!
Tue, May 25 2010 09:50pm EDT 15
Paul
Paul
126 Posts
Yep

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