| Tuesday 17th November 2009 03:36pm 1 |

Rich
122 Posts
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I could go on all day about assessments. Around here they tend to
be lower than actual values, unless you have a newer home and the
assessment is probably closer to actual values. In MA, they
reassess every three years so that complicates things. Buyers
obsess over taxes but I would say that while assessment in my
town might be the same as in the town north of me, their tax rate
is much higher. I always tell people not to look at the
assessments or tax rates. Better to see what the taxes are on a
similar sized home in different communities. Also should see if
the city/towns have had overrides which are voter approved tax
increases. Some towns have them almost annually. Those are not
towns I would be wanting to live in for the long
haul.
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| Wednesday 18th November 2009 09:52pm 2 |

CA UMB
14 Posts
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Fees are what they are. I don't mind ordering through the AMC. What
I do mind is the 5 day rule for reviewing an appraisal that the AMC
ordered. The lenders must love this. Who can get by with just a 30
day lock? Even if we had 24 hour turn times, it's nearly
impossible.
Bottom line: Lender makes more on the lock period. Lender makes
money from a new profit center, their AMC. Borrower pays more for
appraisal & unjustified appraisal reviews. Apprasier makes
less. We make the same with more effort. Good deal all the way
around, isn't it?
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| Thursday 19th November 2009 08:43pm 3 |

Queen City Funding
17 Posts
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After speaking with a few bank reps, they dislike the HVCC more
then I do. I didn't think it was possible. I hear many appraisers
are replying with "data not available" when asked for simple
appraisal condition's because they are not happy with the new
amount of money they are receiving. How long before this little
experiment gone bad ends?
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| Thursday 19th November 2009 09:55pm 4 |

Paul
126 Posts
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Recently I had an appraiser call me directly after I sent in a
rebuttal on an appraisal he wrote up. He was bitter. After a 20
minute conversation and pointing out that he missed a perfect
comparable match a block away and one of the bathrooms in the
actual home, he said "okay, what value do you need to make this
happen?" I did not reply to that question directly, but I did laugh
Another interesting note is; he said he may have subconsciously
adjusted the value down because the kitchen sink was full of dirty
dishes
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| Thursday 19th November 2009 11:30pm 5 |

Rich
122 Posts
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Jeepers Paul. I suppose he puts a bad apprasial out every 28 days.
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| Friday 20th November 2009 12:39am 6 |

Sherri Sherpy, The MN Mortgage Mom
16 Posts
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Frank and Brian are in New York
presenting the HVCC Petition to Cuomo's office right now (117,394
individually printed petition signature pages). Be sure to stay
tuned in to the
TBWS Daily
for the latest updates directly from New York. Mark Savitt from
NAMB is with them and it looks like they already have Fox News
and CNBC covering our collective efforts to get rid of HVCC once
and for all. The three of them are making it clear to everyone
that this is not the end of battle, but just the beginning, and
we will not abandon this petition or our efforts to get rid of
HVCC until HVCC is Gone! We are quickly moving from a "minor
annoyance" to a "major pain in the @$$" for everyone in support
of HVCC and we need to put the pressure on more than ever
so please keep forwarding the petition site to everyone you know.
Everyone that has anything to do with the real estate industry
has an obligation to join us in our effort to make their lives
and industry better. We
are ramping up our efforts in a big way right now and we plead
with you to do the same.
Thanks so much for your continued support!
HVCC
PETITION SUMMARY (HVCCPETITION.COM)
117,394 signatures collected and
printed as of 11-16-2009
97,234 of the signatures are confirmed as valid unique petition
signers
The 20,160 non-verified signatures
collected were not counted in the formal total but were included
in the printing for the following reasons.
-
A large percentage of them are believed to be valid but some
information was missing.
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Though thousands of them appeared to be duplicate signatures
they contained new horror stories of HVCC victims. Many Real
Estate professionals appeared to be trying to submit fresh
stories of how their most recent clients were directly harmed
by HVCC. We felt those stories were relevant and worth
including, especially since the new victims listed could be
contacted through the signer listed.
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A few of the duplicates appeared to be a previous signer
attempting to update their signature with formal authorization
to pass their information along to the press/media since that
feature was added to the petition several weeks after it was
launched.
39.6% of the petition signers were
mortgage originators
29.8% of the petition signers were real estate
professionals
17.4% of the petition signers indicated they worked in some other
facet of the industry
The remainder of the petition signers were primarily homeowners
or potential home buyers
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| Friday 20th November 2009 12:50am 7 |

CA UMB
14 Posts
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Jeff what service? None have caused me a "deal" but a lot more
time, work and aggravation than in the past for me and more money
spent on the initial appraisal by my client and it seems all my
files have had to have a drive by or field review costing several
hundred dollars more. You would think a lender would be comfortable
with an appraiser hired by their AMC, wouldn't you?
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| Saturday 21st November 2009 12:24pm 8 |

Rich
122 Posts
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Saw that Sherri. Not sure inf Andrew Coumo give a flying eff after
the TV cameras leave. Still it feels good that there is some common
sentiment out there that this is hurting more than helping. Next up
is the new RESPA. I dont care about the new GFE. All the other BS
around it will basically stop 30 day transactions and increase
closing costs. So how does that benefit consumers? HUD thinks this
will save consumers an ave of $700 per transaction. Not sure how.
No one is allowed to up charge third party fees. Pay for brokers is
disclosed. what figging more is needed?
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| Tuesday 24th November 2009 06:49pm 9 |

Jeff
18 Posts
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I wouldn't mind seeing the HVCC gone... Then brokers can order
appraisals from whomever they want, even the good AMCs.
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| Wednesday 25th November 2009 02:56pm 10 |

Queen City Funding
17 Posts
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Just finished 7 days of cleaning up another HVCC mess. Reports
comes in with a $5,000 positive value adjustment for a
workshop/cottage in the properties backyard. Appraiser failed to
take any pictures which of course the bank wanted. I submit the
request through the AMC and a day later they call me and say the
appraiser is requesting $75 to revisit the property. I explain to
the AMC what happened and that the appraiser should not be
receiving more money. It really irks me when someone complains
about having to do more work when they are simply cleaning up their
own mess. Had he done it right the first time, a revisit would not
be necessary. Appraiser ends up getting paid and when the report
comes in, the interior of the cottage was in rough shape so the
value had to be adjusted down. As with all HVCC appraisals the most
annoying part was everything had to be delt with through the AMC.
No direct contact and people in the middle who weren't qualified to
get my point across. After all, the AMC are the ones who let the
original appraisal get to me without noticing the missing pictures.
HVCC cost this borrower an additional couple hundred dollars in
appraisal fees compared to the past, a week in underwriting which
should have only been a day forcing us to miss our purchase closing
date and now we are scrambling to close in the middle of the hectic
holiday's. HVCC can not be gone fast enough!
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| Thursday 3rd December 2009 10:53am 11 |

Rich
122 Posts
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Not HVCC related but more a CYA by the DE UW on an FHA purchase.
The UW asked for a second appraisal. So they order one and it comes
back higher than the original appraisal. There are some minor
issues that are not matching up so the UW calls the appraisers to
see if they can change some fields. It comes down to an 80 square
foot difference on the back deck. Neither appraiser is willing to
change their measurement, so they both have to go back and measure
the deck. This has delayed closing one week on a purchase loan.
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| Thursday 3rd December 2009 03:07pm 12 |

Joe Cafiero
19 Posts
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How can you be 80 square feet off on a deck? One of them would not
do well on "Are you smarter than a 5th Grader"
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| Thursday 3rd December 2009 03:39pm 13 |

Rich
122 Posts
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maybe it was 8?
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| Saturday 27th February 2010 03:13am 14 |

Oak
36 Posts
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Oh that Andy Cuomo is a peice of work I know that for sure
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| Saturday 1st May 2010 09:06pm 15 |

Oak
36 Posts
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I saw a show on TV that said that appraisers were messing up the
housing market on purpose, cause they get paid crap now compared to
before the new laws. Is that true?
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